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8/28/2018 2:13 PM
 

In the beginning I was anti ABS-B. For my kind of flying and my age a phoned in AWOS is all I ever needed ( still use it mandatory) and I still strongly believe in eyes out the glass flying (VFR). After much research, many chats and discussions and ADS-B visual presentations I pulled the trigger and installed a FreeFlight systems Ranger Lite In/Out WiFi 978 UAT using a Samsung Galaxy Tab S 8 inch. Best decision I ever made - LOVE IT. A year ago wlith Denver TRACON the FAA had to tweak the the TIS-B because too many ghost aircraft were appearing. ( tis-b sweeps were not accurate) 

The catch: FreeFlight GPS module ( first TSO'd waas with ADS-B) communicates on the Chelton - Capstone language and not NMEA - RS232 ( old marine language) as others do ( garmin and the rest. What this means is that a 406 Mhz ELT with GPS capabilities cannot use FreeFlights GPS module. My solution - Garmin18x puck for ELT GPS coordinates. 

978 you can fly anonymous. also only 978 can receive FISB-B ( weather ).

Fire away everbody ;-)

 
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9/27/2018 6:37 AM
 

Someone at the faa is listening.....

This just out from them.....Mike N714AJ

FAA Safety Team | Safer Skies Through Education
Your ADS-B Questions Answered: Get the Facts Here
Notice Number: NOTC8053

Question: Is the traffic information I receive on my ADS-B In system limited if I am not ADS-B Out equipped?

Answer: The answer is ‘yes.’ ADS-B In is a great capability, but it does have limitations that every pilot should understand. The full capabilities of ADS-B In are only realized when aircraft are properly equipped with ADS-B Out transmitting on either of the two approved frequencies, 1090Mhz or 978Mhz.

ADS-B In systems display targets from three sources: same frequency ADS-B (often called link), different link ADS-B through ADS-B Re-broadcast (ADS-R), and from transponder-only aircraft via Traffic Information System – Broadcast (TIS-B). In order to provide your ADS-B In equipped aircraft with the nearby traffic via ADS-R or TIS-B, the FAA ground system has to “know” about your aircraft and the aircraft around you. Your aircraft has to have a properly functioning ADS-B Out system. For TIS-B, your aircraft must be within airspace where surveillance radar is operating and detecting transponder-only aircraft. Now consider the impact on different configurations.

ADS-B In Only Single or Dual Link: If you are equipped with only ADS-B In (no ADS-B Out) and receiving on a single link, say 978Mhz, you can only expect to see nearby traffic broadcasting ADS-B Out on 978Mhz. If you are equipped with only ADS-B In receiving both links (dual link), you’ll be able to see ADS-B Out aircraft on either link directly. However, unless you are in the vicinity of a properly configured ADS-B Out aircraft, you will not receive ADS-R or TIS-B targets (such information will be tailored for the other aircraft, not for yours).

ADS-B In Single Link and ADS-B Out: If you are equipped with ADS-B Out (either link) and receiving ADS-B In on a single link, you will receive traffic on your receiving link directly from the aircraft. When the FAA ground system can see you, you will also receive traffic information on the other link through ADS-R and nearby transponder-only aircraft via TIS-B.

ADS-B In Dual Link and ADS-B Out: If you are equipped with ADS-B Out (either link) and receiving ADS-B In on both links, you will receive ADS-B Out traffic on both links directly, and when the FAA ground system can see you, nearby transponder-only aircraft via TIS-B.

If you are not equipped with ADS-B Out, you are not benefitting fully from the capabilities of the ADS-B system.

Refer to the Aeronautical Information Manual (Chapter 4, Section 5) for more information on these capabilities. www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/

Look for us at AOPA Fly-Ins in 2018 – we’ll be happy to answer more of your questions.

 
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9/27/2018 8:02 AM
 
Nothing new there. That information has been available since the inception of ADS-B.
 
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9/27/2018 3:11 PM
 

Education and information does not end with one breifing or one lecture...

New pilots, controllers, and dispatchers come on-line every day and this education must be continual, persistent and consistent.  Old pilots are taking advantage of the new medical and are just coming back to flying and discovering an entirely new NEXT GEN airspace configurations with FRZ's, SFRA's, TFRs, and things like DROTAMS....

There are numerous articles out there in all the flying magazines about ADSB - many are redundant, but surveys tell us many pilots STILL do not know the details.  Many airport managers living under the MODE C veils do not understand the implications of the new rules - I know this from personal experience.

So, we will keep hearing this well into transition to the new rule after 1 Jan 2020.  The original post was asking for this - and now it is coming to fruition.

Probably a good thing....

Mike N714AJ

 
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9/27/2018 3:34 PM
 
The information is and has been available since day one. There is nothing new or different. The FAA site you link to has been there with the info since day one. There is nothing new here.
 
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