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2/13/2013 2:26 PM
 
Dave K wrote:
Hope I wasn't misunderstood....

Not saying the iFly is inadequate in any way.....and I agree with Cobra....the iFly team is leading the way.

While technically ADS-B "will" provide better traffic, it's not ready for prime time. As the nextgen rollout continues it will undoubtably become the best option (until it becomes mandatory). For now, TIS does work very well (not perfect). I don't know the technical aspects but I see the targets, a line showing their direction, and it's altitude relative to mine (+ or - feet). 8 targets is more than enough...i think if i saw more i would suspect an envasion :-) I would guess that I'm seeing 95+ % of the traffic (as long as TIS is available). It's a tremendous asset when arriving at a busy, uncontrolled airport.

The basic point is I believe anyone looking for traffic avoidance should not consider any ADS-B (in only) unit. This is not an iFly issue but a ADS-B unit issue. Once we have a in - out option all bets are off.

I think I am the one who is misunderstood.

I agree completely that:

  1. ADS-B in without ADS-B out is unreliable for traffic purposes, and never really will be.
  2. TIS works fine for areas where coverage is present.

However, I do think that ADS-B is ready for primetime. Let's take a look at the coverage:

I agree completely that the coverage is increasing every day. In fact, the graphic above is nearly a year old. But ADS-B coverage is already far better than the meager coverage of TIS (you can see it here: http://www8.garmin.com/aviation/graphics/tismap.gif). So while I certainly would not go our of my way to remove a TIS device, I certainly would not install a new one today. My point is not to dig on TIS. Rather, it is to point out that ADS-B is already a much better TIS that TIS (perhaps that is why they call it TIS-B ). As such, I am hoping that Adventure Pilot continues to increase their investment in this area in the next release rather than 2020.

Regards,
Neal

 
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2/13/2013 4:22 PM
 

ADSB traffic is and will remain a limited benefit to pilots who do not yet have ADSB-out installed. I've got a Skyradar but no ADSB-out, I fly in a busy Class-B environment with ADSB online, and I have _yet_ to see the first ADSB traffic target light up on my iFly. (Weather works just fine.)

Personally, I'd rather AP spent more time focused on features that I can use today with the equipment I have. Unfortunately, any time AP spends on extra traffic stuff today doesn't do me any good. (BTW, I'd love to buy an ADSB-out device and get the whole enchilada...traffic info is important to me. Unfortunately, I have yet to see a product that seems like a wise investment for me to make at this time, so I continue to wait and see if a "killer product" reveals itself to me.)

It's tough to be all things to all people. I don't envy AP their prioritization decisions.

 
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2/13/2013 4:34 PM
 
Cobra wrote:

ADSB traffic is and will remain a limited benefit to pilots who do not yet have ADSB-out installed. I've got a Skyradar but no ADSB-out, I fly in a busy Class-B environment with ADSB online, and I have _yet_ to see the first ADSB traffic target light up on my iFly. (Weather works just fine.)

Personally, I'd rather AP spent more time focused on features that I can use today with the equipment I have. Unfortunately, any time AP spends on extra traffic stuff today doesn't do me any good. (BTW, I'd love to buy an ADSB-out device and get the whole enchilada...traffic info is important to me. Unfortunately, I have yet to see a product that seems like a wise investment for me to make at this time, so I continue to wait and see if a "killer product" reveals itself to me.)

It's tough to be all things to all people. I don't envy AP their prioritization decisions.



I haven't seen any ADS-B traffic on my iFly 700 either but that's because the data link between the Skyradar-L that I have and the iFly 700 is not working correctly, according to Adventure Pilot. It's supposed to be fixed in the next release. Which ADS-B receiver (UAT) are you using?

S. Morgan
 
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2/13/2013 6:38 PM
 

I've never seen traffic on the ifly with my skyradar. But my iPad is lit up like a Xmas tree with traffic. I fly around the dfw metroplex. There was another post where I implied there was a defect in the ifly due to some protocol change in traffic from skyradar. I'm guessing it hasn't been fixed yet.

 
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2/13/2013 7:46 PM
 
Jon wrote:

I've never seen traffic on the ifly with my skyradar. But my iPad is lit up like a Xmas tree with traffic. I fly around the dfw metroplex. There was another post where I implied there was a defect in the ifly due to some protocol change in traffic from skyradar. I'm guessing it hasn't been fixed yet.

Well this is a huge issue. iPad working with traffic and the iFly not? I hope this is fixed soon. Doesn't make me feel any better about my 720 purchase. I'm staying tuned. Let us know when this is fixed please. DM

 
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