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12/26/2020 1:40 PM
 

Am I the only one who gets very slow downloads on updates? No matter the rated speed of the connection I'm using, I'm only getting 3-5mbps average on a download in the iFly program.  I don't think I've ever seen it go faster than 5mbps, or about 600 K/sec.  And I know it's not the device because I can speed test it and saturate the connection, so this clearly is being served out to me slowly.  How is your download speed for updates?

 

 
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12/26/2020 6:17 PM
 

I don't know if the iFly data servers have the bandwidth to pour bits downstream as fast as the Microsofts and Netflixes of the world, but unless your device is very old I'd expect you to see better than 600 KB/sec.

I have a (supposedly) 500Mbps plan from Comcast.  When I run speed tests using fast.com (a Netflix site), I consistently see 200 Mbps at my Win10 laptops, 180 Mbps at my Samsung S9+ phone, 120 Mbps at my Samsung Tab S2 tablet, and 120 Mbps at my Asus Zenpad 10 S3 tablet (all of which are connected via wifi).  Divide by 10 for a conservative MBps rating (or divide by 8 if you prefer).

But I don't see anywhere near those speeds during iFly updates.  I am guessing that's partly due to bandwidth bottlenecks at the iFly servers, and also overhead on the device side because there is some processing in parallel with the downloads (uncompressing files, updating screen, brief pauses to stop/restart data flow from one download file to the next, etc.) 

And if it's been a while since I turned on my Android tablets (which is often the case), then they may automatically launch into a bunch of app updates in the background that can really slow things down, due to competition for both CPU cycles and wifi bandwidth.

I just ran a test, and saw these results (numbers came from observing the instantaneous speed reading on the update page while the download was in progress):

Samsung Tab S2:  Max rate I saw was about 1200 KB/sec.  During steady-state transfers of big files, that number stayed between 1100-1200 KB/sec, but dropped to 500-800 KB when it was chugging through a bunch of small files.  Spent most of the time showing 1100-1200 during a 400 MB download.

Asus tablet:  Similar to Tab S2 above, but a little faster.  Big files would get up to 1700-2000 KB/sec.  Small files were still in the 500-800 KB/sec range.  Spent most of the time showing 1500-1700 during a 400 MB download.

Samsung S9+:  Much faster than the tablets; speed rarely drops below 2000 KB/sec, with peaks around 4000-4200 KB/sec on big files. Spent most of the time showing 3000-4000 KB/sec during a 400 MB download.

Win10 laptop:  Fastest:  Speed rarely drops below 3000 KB/sec (though occasionally showed ~2500 when a bunch of small files in a row came through), with peaks above 8000 on some big files.  Spent most of the time showing between 3000-5000 KB/sec during a 400 MB download.

FWIW, I generally see about the same performance on these devices regardless of whether I'm updating 1, 2, 3, or 4 devices at a time (though the tests above were run one at a time).  This also points to the bottleneck not being at my internet provider or within my wifi network. 

 
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12/28/2020 11:06 AM
 

The same device I run iFly on can easily download 50mbps on it's connection to my wireless access point, so I'm pretty sure the bottleneck is at iFly.  Most stuff like this is either hosted on Amazon AWS or colocated private server at a datacenter, both of which have massive bandwidth available.  Nobody except for the largest companies host their own servers "on-prem" any more. 

 
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12/28/2020 3:20 PM
 

The comment about potentialy-limited bandwidth from wherever iFly is hosted is speculatve, yes, and could be wrong.  Still, just because a service is hosted on infrastructure that's capable of jillions of bits per second, the service tier you pay for may only unleash a small fraction of that capability, so there may still be limits there.

Regardless, it's clear that the device itself has a strong influence on the speeds you can get.  You've never mentioned what device you're trying to download to.  If it's something like an inexpensive Android or Amazon Fire tablet, that could be the explanation for the sluggish speeds you're seeing.

 

 
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12/29/2020 7:55 PM
 

It not a big deal since I start updates and walk away most of the time. Never in an update rush.  But you are not the only one who has noticed. And it's not just compared to streaming video. I have 4 iOS EFBs and three Android ones. iFlyGps is noticeably slowest. To be fair, the speed of one of them is appreciably faster at least in part because of its  update method.
 

 

 
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