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8/30/2021 9:23 PM
 

I tried the iPhone iFly's "Vert. Speed" instrument in flight this afternoon and compared it with the baro VSI in a Dynon D10A that displays rate of climb/descent both in digits and as an analog trend tape.

The iFly's Vertical Speed update rate was roughly 3 secs. The Dyon's display, on the other hand, seemed to be continuously updated--faster and smoother than I could notice.

iFly's Vertical Speed lagged the baro gauge by 3-6 seconds--that is, by one or two updates. However, every baro VSI I've seen has its own lag--at least 1 or 2 seconds--because it's showing a trend, and that requires time. All that means is that any glide ratio gauge is probably going to lag reality by some amount. But I don't see that as a Big Problem when you're trying to find the best glide speed after an engine-out because the first trial will give you a ratio and indicated airspeed at which to begin refining for the current weight and conditions. Maybe 10 seconds, or so, would be sufficient.

 
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9/1/2021 10:11 AM
 

Don:

Correct. There is a lag, but still usefull glide info.

The free app called BASEline has the glide ratio ability.  I've tried it and after you find your best glide speed it does settle down.

I too have the Dynon D10. I have done some glide tests with a dead engine at a local dry lake. 

I have a paper tablet on my knee board with two columns. One is IAS and the other is descent rate. 

With the engine off I set different speeds while noting descent rates.

One needs to factor in wind speed and direction. This info is available on the Dynon D10.

At your best glide ratio you would obviously not glide as far in a headwind and a tailwind will take you farther.

As an extreme example: My aircraft stalls at 35 MPH so in a 40 MPH head wind, at an IAS of 40 MPH, at my best glide speed I would be descending almost vertically. So to get more distance we need to consult our Dynon and turn to get the wind off the tail to get any distance to reach a safe laning spot.

Upper winds is another  reason why the Glide Ring would be unreliable.

That said, flying at the best glide ratio would give more endurance allowing more time to call in an emergency.

I guess the best solution for those of us with Dynon would be for that company to provide a glide ratio. I will suggest it to them, but doubt it will have any effect unless they got many requests.

John M

 
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9/7/2021 4:55 PM
 

Garmin has just introduced "Smart Glide."

A LOT more than we arer requesting but at least they realize the need for all ossible help in the event of an engine failure and have done some serios coding to provide a tool/

John M

 
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9/7/2021 10:07 PM
 
John Miller wrote:

Garmin has just introduced "Smart Glide."

A LOT more than we arer requesting but at least they realize the need for all ossible help in the event of an engine failure and have done some serios coding to provide a tool/

John M

Garmin Pilot has had it for some time, although I'm not sure how long--just that I have it switched on and have seen it in action in flight. It works fine. But I almost never use Pilot because iFly is so much better for the kind of flying I generally enjoy. And I'm usually too low for it to be useful. You generally need a few thousand feet of empty air under you to bother consulting it.

(I began subscribing to the "Pilot MyCast" aviation WX app on my flip phone about 20 years ago and kept the subscription even after Garmin bought it and renamed it "Garmin Pilot." It still has better weather depiction than any other app anywhere. Too bad it now has all the bloat and obscurity that all Garmin products have. ADS-B weather is almost as good now now, though, so I've been thinking of dropping it altogether.)

 
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9/9/2021 9:03 AM
 

Don:

I contcted Dynon and they got right back with a response. They will take the glide ratio into consideraton and feel it would be a useful tool for pilots.

I wouldn't hold my breath on that but it mght happen.

John M

 
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