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4/30/2020 10:09 AM
 

I see that Alt mins, TO mins, SIDs, STARs, etc. is available in IFLY GPS but I don't see TEC Route information from the Chart Supplement that is typically used in the SOCAL and North Eastern areas of the country.  Is it there and I'm just missing it?

Chad


CHAD A. BAKER | PA-28 140 | Building a Cozy IV | Life is Short, Live Your Dream and Share Your Passion!
 
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5/1/2020 9:55 AM
 

Chad, forgive me for asking, but what is a TEC?

 
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5/1/2020 11:53 AM
 

Hi Brolin,

TEC routes are Tower Enroute Control routes.  They are IFR route codes that represent predefined flght routes between two airports.  They act sorta like SIDs or STARs but it's a shorthand for an entire route.  These are used in busy airspace primarily in the California and NY area to cut down on comm traffic and make it easier for ATC.  The routes are found in the Chart Supplement for those areas just like the facility info and the airport diagrams.  Here is a link to the TEC routes in California.  See page 498 in the SW Chart Supplement.  https://aeronav.faa.gov/Upload_313-d/...SW_20200326.pdf

For example, if you're looking to fly from Burbank (BUR) to San Diego (SAN) you can file BURP32 and ATC knows exactly what you want.  Or ATC may give you BURP32 as you're route and you would either need to have a way to look it up to know what the full route is or ask ATC to give you the full route reading which would be...V186 BAYJY V363 DANAH V165 SARGS..  Obviously it's not a big deal to ask for the full route but it kinda defeats the purpose of the shorthand ATC has provided in those congested airspaces. 

Certainly not a high priority...more like a nice to have as it ony affects IFR pilots flying in those areas.  But I would think it would easily fold in somewhere just like the Atl Mins and Takeoff Mins are easy to pull up in the app.  I think most people are relying on thier EFBs nowadays to provide all the same info the chart supplements provide and this was just a small thing I noticed was missing.

Just trying to be helpful.  I love the App and all it provides!

cab


CHAD A. BAKER | PA-28 140 | Building a Cozy IV | Life is Short, Live Your Dream and Share Your Passion!
 
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5/18/2020 6:46 AM
 

These are used in busy airspace primarily in the California and NY

Just as a point of information, they are not the same in the northeast as in California. From an EFB standpoint the biggest difference is the northeast ones are not coded by name, so you don't ask for them by name and there's nothing to retrieve from the database.

But for the California ones, at least being able to put the in a flight plan "shorthand" would be a benefit. In the two EFBs I've looked at which support it, neither list them in procedures, one does allow loading by name, and in both they come up when you use their common route advisor functionality.

 
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5/18/2020 7:24 AM
 

Oh wow...you're right.  I didn't realize they were treated differently between the NE and CA.  I was only familiar with them in CA.  Wonder why the difference?

v/r,
Chad


CHAD A. BAKER | PA-28 140 | Building a Cozy IV | Life is Short, Live Your Dream and Share Your Passion!
 
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